Not at all cheap, but well worth it IMO. If you press too hard, you may cut into the fretboard or binding. It really is a stunning piece of work - the pics don't. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. 5mm at the zero fret. I got nothing else. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. #4. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. You may want to do this in small increments to avoid going too thin right off the bat. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Stu Mac sells a fancy jig for this, but I just hold the file. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Even. I can also clearly see there. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Any help with this would be most appreciated!Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. My 2004 50th anniversary strat has a gap between the end of the neck abs the pick guard. Perfectly set up for those Jeff Beck style flutters. Jan 11, 2021 #16To my standards 3. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. If you don't like it, you can reglue the fretboard extension and reinstall the fret. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. prorecordingworkshop. 2. I use thin 0,5mm wood. It's normal and fine and simply a design choice for the model of guitar you purchased. Depending on the neck cost, I'm assuming my overall expenditure on the project would be in between $1300-1500 USD. . Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. That is a 21 fret neck with no overhang, which means that it won't work with the standard bridge placement of a P bass. 0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed . It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. 375, at 24th fret is 2. . I understand that you can put some fretboard overhang and add the fret ,,,,,but I would like to add a bit of a twist to my next build. 75". . This is the only SC13 I. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Our "720 Mod" lowers the floor of a standard neck pocket from . The neck fits in the pocket the same way and the nut is the same distance from the bridge. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. number of strings = 4. I think Robert has the right idea. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. . The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. 090 thick. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. Resources. You don't need to pine for the el-cheap-o bass you had as a kid to find a narrower neck. #2. Tried. 83" at the first fret , . If you like that position, it might work well. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. 00. If you can envision a Warmoth neck with the overhang containing an extra fret, Then think about what is happening. Quilted maple top. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. There are very few necks like that. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Fretboards have a certain radius on the surface, and values from 7-20 inches are commonly seen. 13. 625" fretboard thickness is 6. The fretboard overhangs the neck at this point. Warmoth explained that this is "part of the design specification for those that use a pickguard". 720 Mod Neck Pocket Depth. Switching from a 21 to 22 fret neck usually requires no modification to the guitar. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Use the steam to gently loosen up any glue that's holding together the neck and fretboard. The neck position is so good sounding. Display results as threadsFretboard Contour – This is the radial slope of the fret board. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. I just looked through a bunch of Epiphone Les Paul Special photos and that seems to be standard. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. 3. SN-32569 . Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. Messages 24,425. 25,683. Ontario County. + $12 Shipping. 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . For these particular cigar box guitar plans I used maple and black walnut for the neck, headstock, fretboard and fretboard markers as well as the bridge. 125" to play with for pickguard clearance. NO overhang 4. The fretboard overhang is typical on many hollowbody instruments, as it allows more of the top to vibrate. 5mm) heel pocket depth is just on 0. I know the neck pockets are the same size, by the Warmoth P neck is 21 frets. Warmoth 10-16” compound radius. Tried. Widthwise, the neck is 56mm at the zero fret and about 67. Kiesel/Hipshot trem. Maple, walnut, oak, cherry and mahogany are great choices. necessary to add 1 or 2 strings in order to get a low tunning sound character and increasing the number of frets on the fretboard to 30 frets, the more new. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The. Welcome to Crimson Guitars and welcome to Crimson Guitars. Trying my best to make something usable. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. Reactions: Jupiter and Captain Nutslot. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. When installing a neck with a fretboard overhang it is critical to ensure the overhang has enough clearance to accommodate your pickguard. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. May 29, 2016 #6. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. The serial is stamped on the back of the neck however. My Warmoth pro neck fit just perfect. Let the tool do the work—you're just guiding it. You could take down the entire fret end with files or even just coarse sandpaper while you take. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. Lemon oil for the fretboard, which is a very nice Rosewood. jazz Bass 74. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. . to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. Of course, customer must verify neck pocket dimensions. It can be done by hand with a sharp wood chisel. 5-3mm . The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. Mark all of the frets with your black marker again. Should work ok. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. Messages 10,311. make an aftermarket 24 fret neck that's not just a fretboard overhang (and I don't really care about the upper frets that much, but that still leaves a neck pocket gap), and I'm a little dubious about picking up one of the extremely cheap Chinese-made 24 fret necks on eBay (although as a temporary. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. They give you a "firmer grip" on the notes, if you get what I. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. Paper, sand paper, thin metal sheet, carton…. . I want to replace it with a Warmoth P-style neck. 080 gap between the pickguard and the underside of the fretboard overhang. 5" scale. Fretboard Overhang. However you now have an extra fret without having to move the bridge. Reactions: cip 123. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. 2291 posts · Joined 2015. Photo 4. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. 720". And I thought about providing a measurement from the end of the fretboard, but. For example, as depicted in bar 1 of Example 4, take an open-A chord, move the shape up one fret for a B b chord, one more fret for a B chord, and so on. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. It is in solid working shape and the truss rod works properly. It is usually a thin, flat piece of wood or metal and is often elevated from. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. . 09375. If you change the scale length with a longer neck, intonation will not be correct. The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. I've already routed out the pickup cavities based on a template set. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. In theory both should work but unless you really want 22 frets I'd look for a neck with a regular neck heel, not the overhang. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. Last edited: Jul 16, 2012. If the bridge is positioned further up the body that means that the fretboard is essentially shifted to the left. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. 5" and inside the box the neck will continue in and be glued to the underside of the lid. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Angling the pocket avoids the issue of a gap at the back of the pocket. This even took into account the fretboard overhangs. When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. Most Warmoth bodies and necks use the Strat®-shaped heel and neck pocket as standard. Modifications/Repairs: previous neck reset, top patch near bridge, top crack repair treble side next to fretboard overhang. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. All kinds of materials are used for this purpose. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. Probably. Paul Gilbert. g. Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. 2. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. All the rods I use are hotrod truss rods from Stewmac. 070-. It's that the new neck sits lower in the pocket than the old one did. Haven't been much of a Tele person over the years but find myself wanting one now. In short, unless someone has done a lot of reengineering, I don't think having less fretboard overhang by itself will help the sound. #1. I can see that the standard 25. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 83" at the first fret , . As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. . - Pickup wiring would need to be routed differently. The Fender Highway One Jazz Bass has all the classic American-made J Bass features: alder body, maple neck, rosewood fretboard, 2 single-coil Jazz pickups, chrome hardware, and a 3-ply pickguard. . Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)Solidbody Guitar and Bass Chat; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Equal: The scale length is from the nut to the bridge. From what I know there are 21 and 22 fret Strat necks. Empty any old water out of the iron and add fresh water. Also, PRS in general is not. It's just *barely* too tight, so the action is *slightly* affected. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. I just sanded the underside of the fretboard overhang until it cleared the pickguard when the neck is fully bolted down. If we routed a 1. fretboard overhang at nut (distance from string to fretboard bounds) fretboard overhang at last fret; string gauges; string tensions; fretboard radius at nut (for compound radius fretboard radius at bridge is calculated with the stewmac. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Dec 25, 2015 #5. File the frets back. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. CryptoHi, Just finished my first parts-o-caster and all in all it went ok, I can play it and everything so overall I'm chalking it up as a win. On a Dlx 5 string,. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. 060" or . There is no fretboard overhang on this neck. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. It didn’t take much to fix it. It felt just right all the way up to the end of the fretboard. 015 of fall-away at the last fret when comparing to the fret at the body joint. Then evaluate the saddles grooves so see if they need. . 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. Messages. Most conversion necks are in fact 24. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . 81" at the first fret , . Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. . The first step is to file the protruding fret ends flush to the fretboard. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Okay so the fretboard thickness is . Last edited: Aug 8, 2020. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. Compatibility Issues. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. Whomever it was didn't look up the specs on the elite. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. fretboard overhang = 3 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. 22 jumbo frets, fretboard overhang 9. Staten Island NYC. Business, Economics, and Finance. The 550 has a much larger contact area at the neck to body joint, even more so than the originals because there's no fretboard overhang -- it's built like the AANJ neck -- solid right to the end. simple, yet perfect for the song. 21 inch Fretboard. Cutting down a truss. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. You should, however, keep in mind that if the fretboard overhangs its heel in this case, you’ll need to cut some space between the pickguard and the fretboard in order to get it to fit. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate: This page should allow a person to quickly and accurately calculate the information needed to design the fretboard of a stringed instrument. To get the action where He wants it (2,4 mm att low E and 1,7 at high E) I´d have to lower the saddles (individual saddles. Because an overhang doesn't allow clear access to a heel truss rod nut. Standard 21 Fret. It's the yellow one. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. I used a dremel to widen the arc. What's new. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. It is fairly easy to do with the right tools. $150. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. It is not possible to fit a neck on a guitar without it. How about supplying some references to support this premise. Radius the fretboard off the neck, cut the recess for the top in the neck blank, glue the upper portion of the fretboard to the neck blank leaving it floating over the top area, carve the neck, stain the top, slide the top in under the fretboard "overhang", glue the wings on and then the "lower" portion of the fretboard. 5 radius fretboard approx . Personally I don't like the look of a fretboard overhang, so I'm a strictly 21 fret guy on Fenders. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Then I marked the string intersection points on this imaginary nut. 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. Standard Fender specs only allow for 20 frets, unless a fretboard overhang is present. Place 120 grit 3M sticky sandpaper across the entire length of the straight bar now. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. PG Custom Guitars is located in the South East of England. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. Hi. 2) I moved the vibrato unit back to the Jazzmaster positionLook at the fretboard overhang. So even though I haven't drilled holes yet, this implies my bridge position is set by the template. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. That neck may have a shim in the neck pocket to raise the neck up a little more. Although there are ways of disguising any potential gap that can occur by angled shims in a square pocket - a fretboard overhang, having the neck pickup route right up against the neck pocket (Ibanez do this all the time on their S and RG models), hiding any gap with a. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. Add to Wish List. 6" and not 24. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. Just unboxed a DIY kit and test fitted the neck. Seeing as it was a 34" scale fretboard, I decided to keep a little overhang, as the 21 fret is right at the end of the Gibson neck now. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. . 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Business, Economics, and Finance. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. 83" at the first fret , . Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. 5mm. Media. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. 30. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. 2455, fret height (dont measure the tang, jus the crown) is . trock. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. 83" at the first fret , . Tape the paper to the fretboard. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersThey just add more frets on the top making the fretboard longer (though the distance from the bridge to the nut remains the same) - the spacing between the frets remains the same for a given scale length - that's why they have warnings about those 24 fret necks - they overhang the body considerably, and often run into trouble, running out. 608. You can do the metric equivelents. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. Given its age, it's understandable that this guitar has undergone some maintenance over the years. 83" at the first fret , . Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). Unless you want something truly exotic, or a body/neck shape that Musikraft just doesn’t make, they are superior to Warmoth IMO. As long as the scale length is 25. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. • Fretboard overhang = 0. 050”, 0. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. Mar 24, 2011. The fretboard overhang on the body is normal. Nov 17, 2011 #15 Well, frankly, I have never seen a full-offset neck like yours, but I was hoping I could help. Prepare to Remove the Fretboard. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang 85K subscribers in the Luthier community. Warmoth can be pricey. This is my first real project, I made an early RG type body (non-AANJ), modeled after my RG750. The saddles of the bridge then need to be farther from the nut for longer scale. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. 0625 is not enough clearance for a pickguard to fit under the 22 fret overhang when the neck is in the pocket. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all.